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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:25 pm 
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Hi,

I am new here. That s good to see a forum like this.

1)I have a new project to begin about AM Radio receiver but i got stuck because i cannot find any ZN416e ic around. Do you know if there is equvalent circuit of this ic. You know by using simple circuit elements.

2)Or at least can you advice any other ic that i can use instead of this.

3)And I want to ask is it really hard to find AM stations with these kind of circuits. Any important point or advice?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:18 pm 
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there's alot of information about single-IC radio ICs like ZN416e here.

If this is your first radio project, you might find it easier, and more interesting, to build a crystal or regenerative radio instead. The parts will be easier to find, and, especially with a regenerative receiver, the performance will be better.

Join this Yahoo group to find many simple radio designs.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:39 pm 
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ZN416 is basically a ZN414 with an extra audio output stage. You should be able to find ZN414 or the MK484, a more modern version.

Look in the Solid State Radio section of this site for more topics and info.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:30 am 
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(6) available here ......... $10ea + postage.

Ebay - 290631399641

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:19 pm 
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Thanks for all help. I ve read all of them now and can't see the equivalent of the ZN416E which has 8pins.

I need 8-pin ZN416E for this project:

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I found all of the components of the circuit except the ic1 which is the
ZN416E. ic2 is LM386.

Ordering from ebay is easy but i know i can make it myself for cheaper by using simple circuit elements.

Is there a way to use ZN414 3-pin into this circuit? or Do i need to change my whole circuit to make it suitable for ZN414 3-pin?

What do you think?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:56 pm 
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There are many circuits using ZN414 + LM386. Here is one:
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The site above, mikroe.com has a whole book of simple receiver ideas including ZN416, ZN414, MK484, etc.

Rich


I built this version and it worked well with only the ferrite bar antenna.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:09 pm 
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Hi,here http://theradioboard.com/rb/viewtopic.php?t=3317 you have all the documentation about ZN414, 415 and 416 and their equivalents.Enjoy the diagrams and good luck at work!

Andrei

PS:wait until the diagrams appear.They are scanned and added on high resolution because if you want to maximise them not to have problems with pixel (resolution)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:02 am 
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@Andrei
Thank you really. I found the thing i want there.
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http://theradioboard.com/rb/viewtopic.php?t=3317[/url]
There is an equivalent circuit schematics for ZN416E with 8-pin which i really needed. There it shows how to make a ZN416E by using ZN414.

Here i add the schematics for others want to make this kind of thing in the future:
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For ZN414 equivalent can use this schematics:
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@XtalHWJ
Thank you too. Since i ve found the schematics about the ZN416E i want, there is no need to change my circuit. I just want to make my own diy ZN416E.

But i think i ve another question:


Can i use another thing instead of ferrite rod for the antenna? For example can i use any iron?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:28 pm 
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Bilker wrote:
Can i use another thing instead of ferrite rod for the antenna? For example can i use any iron?
Thanks.

Not iron. Ferrite rods are made of particles of iron oxide and a binding agent, extruded and baked. The particles don't touch, though they are close together. An iron rod would have too much loss at radio frequencies. The iron molecules are side-by-side and the conductivity of the iron would act as a short circuit across the coil wound on it.

You could use an air-core loop antenna. Here are some examples built by Dave, who runs this forum.

http://makearadio.com/loops/index.php

This online calculator will help you design your own:

http://www.angelfire.com/mb/amandx/loop.html

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:48 pm 
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Homer Davidson's book on building radio receivers has a lot of ZN414 and 416 plans.

May be out of print now, but should be available used.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Rad ... 1eGQAACAAJ


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:41 pm 
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Yes may be loop antenna is better since it can easily pick up signals. I will use trial and error method since i don't really know about these.

Thanks for all help. Now i think i have everything i need to do it. :P

I can't wait to see how it works. :D

I can post here the result and photos after completing.


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